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02-03-11: KUSP On-Air Promo for Sunday, February 6: Siobhan Fallon

"It becomes its own strange kind of normal..."

—Siobhan Fallon

I'll be broadcasting my full-length interview with Siobhan Fallon, about her book 'You Know When the Men Are Gone' on Sunday. Johnny Simmons told me to cut these to 20 seconds, which is barely enopugh to say the name of the show, let alone, put in something that grabs the listener.

However, I find the discipline required for these exercises quite bracing. It's amazing just how much you can cut, how ruthless you can be. The hope, of course, is to draw new listeners. Those downloading this promo now will be able to get the whole 50-something minute interview on Monday. It's a great look into a writer's life and process; this is a grand example of how lives get re-told in fiction. For those hoping to hone their craft, this is another installment in the master classes, at no cost otherr than your valuable time; and I think listeners will find this quite well worth their valuable time.

But Siobhan Fallon did make it easy for me, since she has such a wonderful voice and so much to say, that is so interesting, which you can hear by following this link to the MP3 audio file.

02-03-11: Speaking Frankly: Thomas Frank on The Easy Chair : A Moment of Disregard

"We need the rich to be nice to us..we've been transferring all the wealth of society back to them... shouldn't they be nice to us?"

—Thomas Frank

It's clearly been way too long since I've spoken with Thomas Frank. He's left his steady gig at the Wall Street Journal and taken up with a more intuitively obvious place of publication, Harper's. Now before you begin, yes, I know about the foofaraw at Harper's with regards to layoffs. But, to be quite honest, we were so busy yakking about the transfer of wealth to wealthy and the trickle-up economy, that we could barely even get started. So I decided to do something unusual with this installment.

Generally, I like to begin with a composed introduction to my guest, a bit of boilerplate that lets listeners know who the heck they're listening to and that's about it. But Thomas and I just got to talking, and I realized I'd be well advised to turn on the recorder in mid-stream.

This conversation begins not with the intro, but with me coming back into mic range as I tell Frank about the latest opinion piece by the San Francisco Chronicle's conservative columnist, Deborah Saunders. She regally waves the red flag of debt, and the obvious — to her — necessity to reduce programs that are essential to the survival of the Middle Class, like Medicare and Social Security, all the while ignoring the (to me) obvious elephant among the elephants in the room, defense spending. It doesn't even get mentioned.

Well, what follows is free form smart conversation with one of America's leading political analysts and more fun than anyone should rightfully have when discussing the dire state of affairs in the United States. And yes, finally, I get to the introduction in the middle of our conversation and we launch into a discussion of Frank's latest column for Harper's The Easy Chair, which makes a modest proposal that we dedicate a day to be Rude to the Rich.

Of course Frank is much more eloquent and tongue-in-cheek about all this. But to me, the fascinating part is the science that fires off the whole discussion. You can read Thomas Frank's latest column if you spring for Harper's, which is available and rather nice on the iPad, and then give a listen to our chat by following this link to the MP3 audio file.

02-02-11: Dale Pendell Interviewed at SF in SF on November 13, 2010

"The Pharmako books go way back to a vision I had of something I was going to call The Poet's Guide to Drugs...."

—Dale Pendell

Dale Pendell was definitely a great pick on I believe, Terry Bisson's part, for SF in SF. Bisson told us that he'd heard that Pendell had received some sort of award for the most "green" science fiction book, and from that alone, Bisson knew something was up.

Of course, an Elmo ("most green"), which Pendell got for 'The Great Bay,' is a good thing in itself. Pendell's look at a future in which the Central Valley of California has becom flooded due to a rise in the ocean levels from global warming seems both relevant and greatly imaginative. It;'s one of thoe great ideas that seems obvious, but only in retrospect.

But Pendell's work goes straight my heart on two counts; one, his work involves a sort of meta-fictional conceit with the false history of 'The Great Bay.' But he goes a lot farther than that.

But more than that, his main work 'Pharmako' is a wildly odd piece of drug experimentation, gorgeous design and encyclopedia. Not surprisingly, it's something that took years for Pendell to craft.

And equally unsurprisingly, it is something that could be a bit more easily done now, because lots of the things that Pendell had to go to great effort to obtain can no be easily ordered over the Internet.

What cannot be ordered over the Internet however, beyond Pendell's excellent book, are the contents of that book, to wit, his experiences with those substances. Pendell's book is a fascinating spur to creativity, whether you take the drugs or not.

Perhaps there are cases where reading is a better choice than actual experience.

Pendell is an interesting fellow. We also talked about 'Inspired Madness' his book about Burning Man. I love how contrary Pendell's natural inclinations are; where most books and articles about Burning Man consist of photographs that trend towards the displays of oddity and nudity, Pendell's is a prose work about the inspirational aspects of the event. It has got to be much more difficult to do so, but who could be better qualified than the one time author of The Poeet's Guide to Drugs?

Here's a writer who cares deeply about the place where creativity comes from, which is clear from this linked audio MP3 file.

02-01-11: The Agony Column Live, January 8, 2011

Lisa Desrochers and Karen Joy Fowler

It's easy to forget how fortunate readers are to live in an age when ease of travel gives us unprecedented access to authors. If you live somewhat near a big city in the US, the chances are that some authors of interest are going to show up in bookstores in your neighborhood. It all seems so easy.

Of course, scheduling this sort of thing is not so easy, which is something I've learned as I try to take my radio show on the road. My thought is that this is sort of like being in a rock band. You want to get live exposure, and you sign up the acts. But getting everybody to the store on the date proves to be easier said than done.

For the January 8 segment of The Agony Column Live, I had everything planned out ... until the plans came undone. Lisa Desrochers was still driving down to Capitola, and it was a hell of a drive, from Oakdale. But my other guest proved to be unable to make it, and I didn't get wind of this until the last moment. Fortunately for me, I live in placve with some of the world's greatest writers — one of them, of course, being Karen Joy Fowler. She'd planned to come to the gig anyway — and since she had cleared the time, she didn't mind being part of the party.

We began with the readings, which the writers kept shortish and to the point, but each gave us a real flavor of what they wrote. But the real fun came when I started asking questions and, quite happily, got answers that were not what I expected. Now, the Interviewer Rulebook, tends to say that you should never ask a question to which you do not know the answer. Of course, I'm not real big on rules and I don't really try to interview writers, per se. My general hope when I sit down with any one, or in this case, two writers is to get them talking about what's important to them.

Now my, soon to be proved foolish assumption was that both writers used the supernatural as a means to externalize internal states that are otherwise not easily described, and that in doing so, they set up supernatural worlds that abided by rules the authors themselves created. To a degree, this is the case for Lisa Desrochers, and she spoke eloquently of her efforts in creating a non-denominational supernatural architecture that included heaven, hell angels and demons but eschewed religiosity and moralizing but not morality. Not an easy line to walk!

Of course, my easy theory broke down completely when it came up against the complicated and intuitive writings of Karen Joy Fowler. For Fowler, the supernatural is by definition chaotic and intrusive. It's bad things happening to anyone in its way for no good reason. It's the breakdown of rules, not the introduction of new ones.

To tell the truth, I thrive on moments when I'm proved wrong, because, admittedly, that's the majority of my life. But you can hear things go right as Karen Joy Fowler and Jill Desrochers talk about writing by following this link to the MP3 audio file.

01-31-11: A 2011 Interview with Teresa Strasser

"...and I just thought, 'Really? Do you have to bum me out? 'Cos this is pretty much no backsies."

—Teresa Strasser

When I first set up an interview with Teresa Strasser, I managed to forget that I had at the same time a vet appointment to take my doggie in for doggie chemo. Life in the 21st century proving once again to be more interesting than I anticipated or wished. It's the sort of thing that would happen to her, in her book.

It was a phone interview, so I called her from the vet's office, certainly not the quiet and professional background that one might have hoped for. She was not pleased. She told me she was working two jobs and didn't know if she could fit me in later. This was the first time ever I had missed an interview, and I was disappointed in myself for blowing the time, and admittedly miffed as well. It had not been a banner week chez Kleffel, and this was the surprise on the bottom of my shoe.

But I am nothing if not persistent. I had scheduled to be in LA the following week, and after lots of back and forth — much of it while I was actually driving down to LA — I managed to line up an interview with her just about 24 hours after I was going to do the Zocalo Public Square Gig with Guillermo Del Toro. To be honest, I really relished the difference. I had asked to do the interview at her house, because I wanted to get a feel for what her household as like. I was told to prepare for chaos. That sounded about right to me.

Thus I found myself driving literally, almost past Tommy's Hamburgers just a stone's throw from the infamous Rampart Station of the LAPD. As I drove up her street, trying to find her address, I came upon a house that looked really out of place. It was clearly brand-news, with a pristine yard, a big porch and giant windows through which I could see an enormous flat-screen TV. It screamed "minor celebrity starter house." I parked across the street.

But when I got my cases out, I realized this was not her house. Hers was down just a little ... a little more ... oh here, the much more prosaic, needs-a-bit-of-work-and-yard-work model. Now this felt right. I had been told to prepare for chaos. As I walked up, Teresa shouted at me from the street, where she was walking with her son. And so chaos came to me.

I set up shop in the living room; Teresa's husband and her mother were there. (Since a big chunk of the book talks about her rocky non-relationship with her mother, this was a surprise.) I got stuff plugged in and balanced the mics somewhat precariously upon leather ottoman / chair-like deals. Nathaniel, her baby, immediately figured out that the balancing part of the arms made fun things to pull on. And he was hungry. I turned on the recorders, and got Teresa in front of a mic. A cat jumped into my lap and I realized I hadn't taken any allergy medicine. I figured I had about 45 minutes before my head exploded.

Strasser is as smartly, enjoyably funny in person as she is in print. Her baby boy was hungry, tired and wanted mommy. But Strasser, who has worked forever in radio, knows how to stay on mic, even when it is literally being nibbled on by her child. We had a grand discussion of her book until the cat dander got me, and I had to entertain the child by standing on the porch and coughing. Fortunately, I was able to make a quick recovery and finish the interview before the meltdown. You can hear the unedited audio non-chaos as Teresa Strasser talks about pregnancy, childbirth and "deep cable" by following this link to the MP3 audio file.

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03-14-15: Commentary : Marc Goodman Foresees 'Future Crimes' : Exponential Potential

Agony Column Podcast News Report : A 2015 Interview with Marc Goodman : "...every physical object around us is being transformed, one way or another, into an information technology..."

Agony Column Podcast News Report UPDATE: Time to Read Episode 199: Marc Goodman : Future Crimes: Everything Is Connected, Everyone Is Vulnerable and What We Can Do About It

03-01-15: Commentary : William Ury on Getting to Yes with Yourself: And Other Worthy Opponents : To the BATNA, Robin!

Agony Column Podcast News Report : A 2015 Interview with William Ury : ...he proceeded to shout at me for approximately 30 minutes..."

Agony Column Podcast News Report UPDATE: Time to Read Episode 198: William Ury : Getting to Yes with Yourself: And Other Worthy Opponents

02-22-15: Commentary : Jennifer Senior Experiences 'All Joy and No Fun: The Paradox of Modern Parenthood' : Reading Fun for the Whole Fambly!

Agony Column Podcast News Report : A 2015 Interview with Jennifer Senior : " becomes a source of enormous tension once a baby comes along..."

Agony Column Podcast News Report UPDATE: Time to Read Episode 197: Jennifer Senior : All Joy and No Fun: The Paradox of Modern Parenthood

02-09-15: Commentary : Stewart O'Nan Looks 'West of Sunset' : Twilight of the Great

Agony Column Podcast News Report : A 2015 Interview with Stewart O'Nan : "...we see him as a tragedian because is life is a tragedy..."

Agony Column Podcast News Report UPDATE: Time to Read Episode 196: Stewart O'Nan : West of Sunset

02-04-15: Commentary : Armistead Maupin Maps 'The Days of Anna Madrigal' : Swiftly Flow the Years

Agony Column Podcast News Report : A 2015 Interview with Armistead Maupin : "I could see what silliness was going on while it was happening..."

Agony Column Podcast News Report UPDATE: Time to Read Episode 195: Armistead Maupin : The Days of Anna Madrigal

01-31-15: Commentary : Christine Carter's Path to 'The Sweet Spot: How to Find Your Groove at Home and Work' : Neurohabits

Agony Column Podcast News Report : A 2015 Interview with Christine Carter, Ph.D. : "...a real tipping point..."

Agony Column Podcast News Report UPDATE: Time to Read Episode 194: Christine Carter, Ph.D. : The Sweet Spot: How to Find Your Groove at Home and Work

01-23-15: Commentary : Jake Halpern Pushes 'Bad Paper: Chasing Debt from Wall Street to the Underworld' : Non-Fiction 21st Century Noir

Agony Column Podcast News Report : A 2015 Interview with Jake Halpern : "...he goes to Las Vegas to this debt-buyers' convention..."

Agony Column Podcast News Report UPDATE: Time to Read Episode 193: Jake Halpern : Bad Paper: Chasing Debt from Wall Street to the Underworld

01-19-15: Commentary : David Shields and Caleb Powell Assert 'I Think You're Totally Wrong' : The Power to Bicker

Agony Column Podcast News Report : A 2015 Interview with David Shields and Caleb Powell : "I read no book reviews any more; the level of discussion is really pedestrian." David Shields "I'm just saying it's a conflict of interest!" Caleb Powell

Agony Column Podcast News Report UPDATE: Time to Read Episode 192: David Shields and Caleb Powell : I Think You're Totally Wrong

01-17-15: Commentary : Charles Todd Expects 'A Fine Summer's Day' : We Interrupt This Program...

Commentary : Charles Todd Engages In 'A Test of Wills' : The Politics of Passion and Policing

Agony Column Podcast News Report : A 2014 Interview with Charles and Caroline Todd : "...let them be themselves and sort it out..." Caroline Todd "'s more on a personal level..." Charles Todd

Agony Column Podcast News Report UPDATE: Time to Read Episode 191: Charles Todd : A Fine Summer's Day

01-13-15: Commentary : Rosalie Parker Unearths 'The Old Knowledge' : The New Old World

Agony Column Podcast News Report : A 2014 Interview with Ray Russell and Rosalie Parker : "I thought I'd write something for fun.." Ray Russell "..there was a side of me of that was interested in the strangeness..." Ros Parker

01-12-15: Commentary : Richard Ford 'Let Me Be Frank with You' : The Default Years

Agony Column Podcast News Report : A 2014 Interview with Richard Ford : "...most of our politicians are morons..."

Agony Column Podcast News Report UPDATE: Time to Read Episode 190: Richard Ford : Let Me Be Frank with You

01-06-15: Commentary : Bessel van der Kolk 'The Body Keeps the Score' : Human Trauma

Agony Column Podcast News Report : A 2014 Interview with Bessel van der Kolk : "...being able to see what happens in the brain really helps us to understand certain things..."

Agony Column Podcast News Report UPDATE: Time to Read Episode 189: Bessel van der Kolk : The Body Keeps the Score

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